Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode 4 Chatlog

As I said yesterday, sorry this is a day late. I'll endeavor to do better in the future.

So I've decided, mostly because it's faster, to stick with the chatlogs for Sailor Moon Crystal. Sorry if you liked the other way better, but no one expressed an opinion so I went with what worked for me.

Reminder: There is NO Kill la Kill (or anything else) chat this weekend. We will resume with the next episode of both Kill la Kill and SMC the following weekend.

[15:00] <@Sylocat> Why is their logo Speedy Gonzales?
[15:00] <@Sylocat> Ooh, high-tech display
[15:01] <Arrlaari> "Suspicious Character"
01[15:01] <Froborr> Wait, so Luna knows Mamoru is Sailor Fedora?
01[15:01] <Froborr> Has she bothered to, I dunno, TELL ANYONE ELSE?
[15:01] <@Sylocat> Seriously, Luna gives them less mission briefing than Kyubey
01[15:02] <Froborr> People keep complaining about the animation quality in this show.
[15:02] <FoME> In the original series, she was essentially an amnesiac.
01[15:02] <Froborr> Maybe it's because I grew up watching cartoons in the 1980s, but I really don't think it's that bad.
[15:02] <Arrlaari> ad
01[15:02] <Froborr> Same here.
[15:02] <Arrlaari> Also, I might have to reload, I'm getting terrible framerate
[15:02] <FoME> And here.
01[15:03] <Froborr> I mean, at least the show looks like it was made by actual artists, unlike something like RWBY.
[15:03] <Arrlaari> The sound is playin okay but I don't actually see the ad
[15:03] <Arrlaari> Yeah, I gotta reload this
[15:03] <@Sylocat> Should we wait?
01[15:03] <Froborr> Ad over, but we'll wait for you Arrlaari.
[15:03] <FoME> Say when.
[15:04] <Arrlaari> Reloaded, ads rewatched, go
[15:05] <@Sylocat> Re-click
[15:05] <@Sylocat> Usagi sleeps with a manga on her pillow
01[15:05] <Froborr> lol, she is a shoujo manga nerd.
[15:05] <@Sylocat> Ouch
01[15:05] <Froborr> Wow, her mom is horrifying.
01[15:06] <Froborr> So far, Madoka gets a more informative mascot and a vastly better mom. Are we *sure* which show is the dark deconstruction?
[15:06] <@Sylocat> Exposition dump? It's only the fourth episode
[15:06] <@Sylocat> "Princess D from the Kingdom of D?" Is that a translation glitch?
[15:06] <Arrlaari> No, that's what they said
[15:07] <@Sylocat> I thought they were talking about some fantasy novel thing
01[15:07] <Froborr> I think it's like in old novels, when they would give the year as 17-- or whatever.
01[15:07] <Froborr> WHY ARE YOU RECAPPING IT IS EPISODE 4.
[15:07] <@Sylocat> Ah, they're all bisexual
01[15:08] <Froborr> They're all bisexual and they all want Ami, because they have taste.
[15:08] <@Sylocat> Indeed
01[15:08] <Froborr> Actually, the only one we know is bisexual is Usagi.
01[15:08] <Froborr> The other two could be lesbians.
[15:09] <@Sylocat> Are they talking about Usagi or Princess D?
[15:09] <@Sylocat> My cat does that sometime
[15:10] <FoME> Exposit?
[15:10] <@Sylocat> He's weirder than I remember
01[15:10] <Froborr> Wut
[15:10] <@Sylocat> And why does she have his glasses?
01[15:10] <Froborr> Is he secretly a princess? Because that would be the best.
[15:10] <@Sylocat> That would indeed be awesome
01[15:11] <Froborr> More likely though there's going to be silly lookalike villains kidnap the wrong person shenanigans.
[15:11] <@Sylocat> Remind me to tell you my webcomic idea
[15:11] <@Sylocat> Ah, of course, that's why she has his glasses
[15:11] <@Sylocat> That's her dad?
01[15:11] <Froborr> Who the hell is that?
[15:11] <Arrlaari> Yes
[15:11] <@Sylocat> He looks far too much like Fedora Mask
[15:11] <Arrlaari> ad
01[15:11] <Froborr> SHE HAS A DAD!?
[15:12] <Arrlaari> Madoka had a dad
[15:12] <Arrlaari> Or: Will have a dad, since that came much later than this
01[15:12] <Froborr> I have an ad too.
[15:12] <Arrlaari> Longer than mine, I guess
[15:12] <Arrlaari> I'm paused
01[15:12] <Froborr> Well, yes, but I assume she just emerged parthenogenically from awful-lady.
01[15:13] <Froborr> As most anime characters do.
01[15:13] <Froborr> Back.
[15:13] <@Sylocat> I almost feel sorry for Luna
[15:14] <Arrlaari> Security theater is so oppressive
01[15:14] <Froborr> Why is he not wearing a mask?
01[15:14] <Froborr> Why is SHE not wearing a mask?
01[15:14] <Froborr> WHY ARE THE ORCHESTRA NOT WEARING MASKS
01[15:14] <Froborr> I DEMAND MASKS
[15:14] <@Sylocat> Are we SUPPOSED to note the decidedly-creepy resemblance between Mamoru and Usagi's dad?
01[15:15] <Froborr> Given he just thought his daughter in disguise was hot, I don't see any other way to read this.
[15:15] <@Sylocat> Suddenly my framerate got shot to hell
[15:15] <FoME> I'd never considered that angle until now. Thanks for that...
[15:15] <Arrlaari> Should we pause, Sylo?
[15:15] <@Sylocat> Nah... it's back now
[15:16] <@Sylocat> You're welcome, FoME
[15:16] <@Sylocat> Oh great... here he comes
01[15:16] <Froborr> He should have worn a mask over his mask.
[15:16] <FoME> Then he could have lent her one.
[15:17] <@Sylocat> Not that the masks seem to disguise anything
01[15:17] <Froborr> I see he dances like an aggressive, controlling jerk too.
[15:17] <Arrlaari> "Oh shit a cat!"
[15:17] <@Sylocat> Oh jeez, he is horrible
[15:18] <@Sylocat> Remind me to posit my theory on this
[15:18] <@Sylocat> Wait, she's a guy in disguise?
01[15:18] <Froborr> Why did you not do that BEFORE you went into the room?
[15:18] <@Sylocat> Ah, it's Nephlite
[15:18] <@Sylocat> Ew
[15:19] <@Sylocat> I do love the CGI transformation sequences
[15:19] <FoME> Agreed.
01[15:19] <Froborr> Yeah, particularly Mars'.
01[15:19] <Froborr> Can you say "major international diplomatic incident"?
[15:19] <Arrlaari> They play rock guitars & drums for her
[15:20] <@Sylocat> This'll have repercussions
[15:20] <@Sylocat> Or is it like Sunnydale where everyone will forget it?
[15:20] <@Sylocat> Oh no...
[15:20] <FoME> Well, they do seem to have a Hellgate nearby...
[15:21] <@Sylocat> 'Douse yourselves in water?"
[15:21] <@Sylocat> What does that even...
01[15:21] <Froborr> BtVS is basically just an American live-action Sailor Moon remake when you think about it.
[15:21] <Arrlaari> Sitting under a waterfall is an atonement ritual
[15:21] <FoME> With less stock footage.
[15:21] <@Sylocat> Ah, so SHE saves HIM... will that make him less of a jackass?
01[15:21] <Froborr> Wait, really?
[15:22] <@Sylocat> Sitting under a waterfall? I'd heard it was a meditation technique, but an atonement ritual?
01[15:22] <Froborr> Um, okay, the tiara thing was a bit odd.
[15:22] <FoME> Maybe it's supposed to be a reference to baptism?
[15:22] <@Sylocat> Just conjur a new tiara
01[15:22] <Froborr> And yeah, I think the water thing is a reference to purification rituals in general.
[15:22] <@Sylocat> Oh jeez... that was the most pathetic way of...
01[15:23] <Froborr> Shinto has those too, y'know.
[15:23] <@Sylocat> Why does it paint her nails if she's going to be wearing gloves?
01[15:23] <Froborr> Oh, tiara upgrade.
[15:23] <FoME> Usagi got the Power of Love.
[15:23] <FoME> (Not as good as the Power of Self-Respect.)
[15:23] <@Sylocat> Sheesh. I liked last episode where Tuxedo Jerk missed the battle entirely
01[15:24] <Froborr> (Don't get me started on how badly that movie flubbed its ending.)
01[15:24] <Froborr> Did they just abandon a blind princess?
01[15:24] <Froborr> Guess not.
[15:25] <@Sylocat> Well, she made it back on her own
01[15:25] <Froborr> EWWWW
[15:25] <@Sylocat> Oh of course it looks like her.
01[15:25] <Froborr> STOP BEING A CREEPER TUXEDO MASK
01[15:25] <Froborr> EWEWEWEWEW SHE IS ASLEEP YOU CREEPY BASTARD
01[15:25] <Froborr> THANK YOU Luna
[15:25] <@Sylocat> Oh jeez
[15:25] <FoME> Wait, she never changed back?
[15:26] <@Sylocat> Luna finally helps out
01[15:26] <Froborr> Luna, he was just kissing your unconscious, underage charge, I AM PRETTY CERTAIN HE'S AN ENEMY
01[15:26] <Froborr> Ad
[15:26] <Arrlaari> Ad
[15:27] <Arrlaari> My ad is ended.
01[15:27] <Froborr> Back.
01[15:27] <Froborr> Ending credits, meh.
01[15:28] <Froborr> So yeah, I am seriously disgusted by Tuxedo Pedonecrophiliac.
[15:28] <Arrlaari> So, that kiss was in the manga and older anime. The fan circle I move in object to it for the obvious and correct reasons.
[15:28] <@Sylocat> How old is he, BTW? Please tell me he's not an adult
[15:28] <Arrlaari> He is a high school student
01[15:28] <Froborr> He's definitely quite a bit older than her.
01[15:30] <Froborr> I kinda want to look it up, but spoilers.
01[15:31] <Froborr> Okay, I looked it up, he's 17.
01[15:31] <Froborr> A 17-year-old and a 14-year-old... I dunno, pretty borderline.
[15:32] <@Sylocat> Of course, characters like him are an inevitable side effect of the obsession with innocence and chastity that we drill into girls from an early age...
01[15:32] <Froborr> But kind of irrelevant, since she was ASLEEP.
[15:32] <@Sylocat> Girls fantasize about creepy pseudorapists because fantasizing about sexual decisions being taken out of their hands is the only way they can reconcile their natural urges with their socialized desires to be "good girls" and never engage in sexual contact
[15:32] <FoME> And so it becomes an entrenched element of the fairy tale romance.
[15:32] <@Sylocat> So of course the romantic lead has to be an aggressive douchebag
01[15:33] <Froborr> Yep. It's the same place Twilight and 50 Shades of Gray and so forth come from.
01[15:33] <Froborr> This is why everyone should watch Utena in high school.
01[15:33] <Froborr> Nip that shit right in the bud, for guys and girls.
[15:35] <Arrlaari> Look what up? His age?
01[15:35] <Froborr> LYeah.
[15:36] <@Sylocat> Okay... I have to go and get some shopping done for the upcoming con
[15:36] <@Sylocat> (which, incidentally, is next weekend, so I won't be able to make it... sorry)
[15:36] <@Sylocat> (make it to here, I mean)
[15:36] <Arrlaari> Last week we established that Froborr also can't make it next week, didn't we?
[15:36] <@Sylocat> Ah... well, I guess we're postponing then
[15:36] <@Sylocat> All right, see y'all around... we can work out further logistics in the comments
[15:36] <@Sylocat> bye
[15:36] <FoME> I'm sure we'll figure this out.
01[15:37] <Froborr> Yeah, we're skipping next week.
01[15:37] <Froborr> Come back for Kill la Kill and Sailor Moon the week after.
01[15:38] <Froborr> Anyway, tons of work to do, so later all!

Sylocat, this is your reminder to tell us about your webcomic idea!